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Vitalik Buterin
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This may be the strongest case for authoritarianism: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/how-liberal-democracy-might-lose Basically: the war for people's hearts and minds has no stable equilibrium except local hegemony of one dominant elite, much like (and for the same reasons as) what Hobbes pointed out for regular war.
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MingMing13
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I don't like the article right from the get up because Noah is wrong. He was raised In a liberal democracy that defeated authoritarianism yet 35% of his income is taken from a barrel of a gun to pay for socialist causes. Communism is dead? Poppycock. Imperialism is gone until US needs oil. CCP exists...
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Vitalik Buterin
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Stepping back from "liberal democracy" for a second, I think it's hard to dispute that the US does actually have "meme pluralism". There's two major tribes that push very incompatible memes, and there's further complexity on top, including a very mainstream elite contingent that believes US liberal democracy is fake.
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Drew Volpe
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I don’t think the tribes are nearly as static or cohesive as this post assumes. It wasn’t the case 20 years ago and I believe Fox/CNN and social media make it seem way worse than it is.
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Vitalik Buterin
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Yeah I didn't mean to say that they are static. Rather, whatever is going on in the US is not one single dominant elite pushing memes much more strongly than everyone else, whereas that is a reasonably accurate way to describe some other countries.
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MingMing13
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While there are multiple memes that result in two vastly different mythologies in the major political parties Both parties mostly overlap, but fringe issues are focused on, despite them believing the same memes, such as: its impossible to maintain roads without taxation. Public schooling is necessary. War is good.
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