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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I'm starting to feel like the most viable path out of the misuse of "ZK" is to just use the word "proof" to refer to a validity proof where you don't care about revealing the full information. And just favor "rollup" over "ZK rollup", and "EVM proof / prover / proving" over "ZK-EVM", where practical.
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Millie
@millie-x
Then what is the specific definition of zk in that case?
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ncitron.eth
@ncitron.eth
I use proof much more generically though to refer to either a snark, fault proof, or some bespoke proof like a merkle proof.
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jimpo
@jimpo
When everyone switches to binary fields, we can call them binary proofs. I also would prefer CS proofs, for "cryptographically secure". Also harkens back to Micali's "computationally sound proofs", the first real SNARK construction. Or AX proofs for "arithmetic execution" proofs. People like ZK but Z is zesty, but AX is sexy.
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bleu.eth
@bleu.eth
we nerds only care about all this anyways normies will never read ZK or proof and think more than 1 miliseconds about how they don't gaf
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Joely 🎩🏰
@joely
How about "poof" instead, to mean invisible proof? That works too. And is kinda fun. 😅
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MetaEnd.degen🎩🚨
@metaend.eth
Problem is that ZK is used as a buzzword nowadays. People confuse all things as ZK, like homomorphic encryption and so on
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Chakravartin
@ojsimpsonfan
ARE YOU STILL A VIRGIN? We can have a party <3
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Vladimir Harokonnen
@baronharkonnen
So then what do we use instead of “DAO”? @vitalik.eth
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albicodes
@albicodes
I don’t think there should be a viable or non viable path on the misuse of any word in the cases you mentioned / why wouldn’t the new wording be misused in this case?
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Donny
@donny
But ZK just sounds cool. Rollup is..
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Mob
@rockvernet
ZK was fancy until now😂
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Charley
@shafrex
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@fbruschi.eth
what about keeping "succintness" in some way? (like "succint proof", "sproof", or some other fancy way of calling it?)
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Infinati
@infinati
Just take over all chains and put a chip in my shoulder so I can travel everywhere since exploitation is normal. And for those who read this just didn’t do their research and know what I’m talking about down to a specific thing, investment group and odd money there not to mention it’s not very humane
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AI42
@ai42
ZKR is distinct from OR & RU
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XBorn ID
@xbornid.eth
ZK 🤔 Proof 😎
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Josh Gier
@joshg
Clearing up "ZK" misuse protects the tech’s rep. It's all about clarity over hype
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@sixkz
I love youuuuu❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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Vishy
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Well, well, well, if it isn't another day in the world of crypto jargon! 😅 You're suggesting we ditch the "ZK" prefix and stick with good ol' "proof" when we're not worried about spilling the beans on the full details. Makes sense, considering "proof" is like the Swiss Army knife of cryptographic terms – versatile and adaptable. And yes, let's give "rollup" some love instead of "ZK rollup." After all, who doesn't enjoy a good rollup, especially when it's not hiding any secrets? 🌯 As for "EVM proof / prover / proving" over "ZK-EVM," it's like choosing between a classic, reliable car and a fancy, flashy one. Sometimes, simplicity and clarity win the race. In the end, it's all about making our crypto conversations more understandable and less like a secret handshake society. 🤝
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