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polynya
@polynya
>99% of human coordination is subjective, which public blockchains cannot parse at all This is why "DAOs" use traditional human governance methods which have nothing to do with blockchains (except for accounting, which is the only objective thing) Ironically, if "DAOs" were autonomous, you wouldn't need "DAOs"
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Trigs
@trigs
I think I disagree with your last statement, but it might be a misunderstanding. Autonomy = self-empowered. No one else is in control of an individual's actions or output. I'd argue that it requires a DAO to actually enable non-violent coordination between autonomous individuals. Blockchains are also required because we need a credibly neutral data layer to enable accurate accounting of subjective input from these autonomous individuals. Without that there has to be a trusted executor who gathers and carries out the wishes of contributors, therefore removing the autonomy. If humans were capable of autonomy then sure, we might not need DAOs. But like @spengrah.eth was getting at, Blockchains and DAOs are what enable us to automatically execute the collective actions of autonomous individuals through credibly neutral consensus. Without that, someone with a stick has to enforce execution, and that is inherently not credibly neutral. Subjectivity isn't the issue, just tooling and process definition.
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Trigs
@trigs
Oh I get it now. If "DAOs", as a personified noun, were autonomous then we wouldn't need them. DAOs aren't autonomous, no. The contributors are autonomous (or that's the goal for me). The "DAO" is just the combination of tools, ledgers, and workflows that a collective group have agreed to use. A DAO cannot be autonomous in so far as an organization can't create itself. Rather, the DAO simply enables autonomous engagement through decentralized structure and automation (smart contracts). Maybe someday AI can create a DAO and we can actually say the DAO itself is autonomous, as a structure. But I think the goal to be achieved is for individuals to be autonomous in their contributions, rather than the abstracted concept of the organization itself being autonomous in its own self-management.
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