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ted (not lasso)
@ted
i asked this on insta (which is asking for trouble) and will ask here: why is the oppressed/oppressor framework used so commonly these days and how is it helpful to advancing society? under this framework, what happens when the oppressed is no longer oppressed? it must become the oppressor; there is no other option.
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Ivy
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it's the most relatable model of power structures to most ppl, and advancing society for whom is the question to be asking i shouldn't have to go into how trans ppl are oppressed, and the 'parents rights' movement is about how parents feel oppressed by state institutions teaching values that are contrary to their own
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
agree that it is the most relatable model, perhaps because it also the most simplified. to the second part of the question, what happens when trans people are no longer oppressed? under this model, the only option is for them to be the oppressor. is that success? or will we abandon the model once that happens?
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Ivy
@ivy
anti-woke ppl already feel this is the case with trans ppl having made the most meager gains, same with men wrt women in the workplace equality feels like oppression to many ppl who have enjoyed unfettered privilege until recently so i don't think there is ever going to be a point of 'no oppression'
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
i've observed the same, but i'm not really following. are you saying that trans people will always be oppressed despite anti-woke people *feeling* oppressed? society to date does have limiting notions of gender, but believing in forever oppression doesn't allow for an exit — does it? what then is the motivation?
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Ivy
@ivy
believing that there's an exit isn't realistic, dubai will stop criminalizing trans ppl (regardless of how it's enforced) when it's no longer a fundamentalist religious country which will happen at half past never ppl have natural instinctual reactions to traits in other ppl that will never be legislated away
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