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i asked this on insta (which is asking for trouble) and will ask here: why is the oppressed/oppressor framework used so commonly these days and how is it helpful to advancing society? under this framework, what happens when the oppressed is no longer oppressed? it must become the oppressor; there is no other option.
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one of the most grounded responses from @tayyab on X. thank you, as always. need to share this with the wider audience here.
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also please reply with "i don't know" and/or "it isn't helpful" if those are your answers to these questions. it is important to me — and to society — that we share our true opinions and perspectives. thank you!
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Because it's a simple binary narrative, and largely the people who espouse it aren't interested in advancing society. They are interested in decelerating because, "meh growth bad"
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it’s popular bc it drives engagement and clicks on social media. very online people have retconned it into something more grassroots even though it’s literally algorithm-driven. it’s not helpful to society: it’s helpful to social media platforms’ profits
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it's the most relatable model of power structures to most ppl, and advancing society for whom is the question to be asking i shouldn't have to go into how trans ppl are oppressed, and the 'parents rights' movement is about how parents feel oppressed by state institutions teaching values that are contrary to their own
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I don’t think that framework is used commonly moreso than the fact that social media has illustrated just how entrenched these relationships are around the world. It’s the object permanence dynamic—if it’s not in your view, it doesn’t exist.
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People away from reality get stuck in these power games because they think ultimate truth lies in worldly/material obtainment. This dialectic supports this pursuit of delusion. True reality is realising that we are all both oppressed/oppressors simultaneously; the only path forward is forgiveness and inclusiveness.
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@dstny
To me it’s due to a massive lack of nuance on all sides, in any conflict. Nobody wants to think about the fact they could be wrong or try to understand the other side. Everybody seems to have an opinion on everything nowadays (unnecessary) and always have to pick a side — the middle ground is crucified by both.
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Starting to believe it’s a downsampled secular evolution of Christianity - idolisation of the victim, original sin, repentance, confession Like all ideologies, it’s a simplification to replace thinking. First order models spread rapidly Could also be pure tribal signalling. People need a framework to know good
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Gm sir
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@banta
I think it's just the easiest/simplest way to view complex dynamics, and thus because it's the simplest, it's understandable/available to the most number of people (with the lowest required effort of thinking). It's not helpful and I don't think will really last as the predominant thinking long term (hopefully)
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everyone's success is only measured against their starting base now, so origins > outcomes leaning into oppression is satisfying for anyone b/c it creates universal winners -- truly successful people believe they overcame adversity, and those struggling are just suffering from systemic biases nobody loses in the end
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humanity's eternal project is the rebuilding of institutions, which requires understanding how current institutions are flawed, and one of the flaws of current institutions is they are structurally/historically designed to advantage certain classes of people over others.
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oversimplifies nuances allows to identify as the victim yet be the protagonist allows one to suppress guilt
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@meganmichelle.eth
"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." The framework turns people into hammers or nails. So you're not a human anymore. Just a hammer or a nail. No growth or accountability, no self-agency. Such a bummer of a framework!
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It’s an incorrect repurposing of the communist narrative of the bourgeois class oppressing the proletariat class. The difference is that while economic class is a changeable attribute in a lifetime, born attributes are not. Also classes may share values; attributes often define values. So it can fall down as a model.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle
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an advanced society is characterised by its ability to effectively identify, differentiate, and acknowledge these dynamics and frameworks. https://warpcast.com/emmanuel/0xceea88d3
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it’s a very effective way for democrats to keep winning elections, and they control the media, entertainment, etc…
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