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ted (not lasso)

curious what other DAOers are thinking or feeling given the recent shut down of DAOs that are "default dead" (eg DAO Masters, Meta Gamma Delta). thought provoking thread: twitter.com/JuliaLipton/status/1683535162808717312 cc @ccarella.eth @noun40 @nounishprof @nonlinear.eth @bli.eth @grin

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Wow this was pretty solid. I kind of agree that probably about 75% of the first wave of DAOs are dead or dying. A lot of people joined for novelty, financialization acted as a disincentive during bear markets, and most DAOs haven’t figured out community.

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Oh so many thoughts especially watching the current struggles in Nouns. I think DAOs as an org type are super early and I agree with @ccarella.eth that we shouldn’t be surprised so many fail. I obviously think the Nouns model is better, but not without a ton of issues as well. We need to experiment more. And…

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Whether you call it a dao or an org, market logic and human psychology still applies. No specific thoughts on DAO masters. Cool that she’s self awake and that she wrote up a postmortem

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My two cents is more DAOs need concrete goals and measurement of progress against said goals.

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If a small group of people can “shut down a DAO” was it ever really a DAO?

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@survey thoughts on state of DAOs

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what were the “Key Performance Vibes” (onchain metrics)? did current leadership decide to just throw in the towel? was this decided by vote? was there an opportunity for others to step up and take the helm? DAOs should scale leadership

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Explicitly stating that its over is a net benefit to the community and core members. This allows people to narrow their focus on DAOs that are viable, instead context-switching between DAOs that never had a chance. Strange that we expected DAOs to never die. How can things evolve without a fitness function?

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Prudent to look beyond the hard dichotomy of centralization versus decentralization, choose an org design for the goals at hand, and evolve with scale. Open Collective and Gitcoin are treading well. (Image from: https://gov.gitcoin.co/t/gitcoindao-starting-conditions-are-different-than-other-daos/10603)

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The term DAO is flawed and suggests an abstract ideal rather than anything in practice. But what destroyed some of the DAOs was member growth. I think exclusivity that cannot simply be purchased is essential. Interesting case is pocket DAO -where you first participate in the ecosystem and then given a membership.

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My humble opinion - we need nation like patriotism in daos https://twitter.com/csvarun26396/status/1684406686440882179?t=Me17YCFejif2CfeJmUW6Eg&s=19

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IMHO a major problem in many DAOs’ give/get has to do with - lack of autonomy to do great work (repels top performers) - lack of efficiency fails to achieve large outcomes, so the pie is small, and any % of a small pie is a small get

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