Tay Zonday on Warpcast

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Americans must admit that the endpoint of wealth is to have kids at lower than the population replacement rate. The only way the rich can get richer, anthropologically, is expanding market participants through a steady influx of poor people who DO reproduce above their replacement rate. Anthropologists widely document that the value proposition of childbirth (often related factors like elder care, manual labor, and population survival) is inverse to wealth. This is why Japan and South Korea are desperate for poorer immigrants. Their population is prosperous. This is also why Germany, France, the U.K. and the U.S. have needed poor immigration to expand wealth, contrary to public xenophobia or leader invocations of “sh**hole countries.” Rich residents opposing low-income housing are self-defeating. Developed countries technocratically impoverishing poor ones through currency manipulation, then titrating poverty immigration, is the only way to maintain wealth and capitalist “growth”mythology.

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(1/2) I think you're attesting causality to correlation. I also disagree with some of the statements made here, especially for countries such as Japan and Germany. Great sources to read up on this are The limits to growth and Earth4All, both authored by hundreds of scientists & the Club of Rome. The models used and explained in the papers are amongst the most accurate for socio-economic predictions ever created. 1. Higher childbirth rates are in direct relation to education, women rights and long-term economic domestic securtiy, not a "pull" factor from overdeveloped countries to re-staff cheap labor 2. The pathologic growth addiction is created, fueled and satisfied with financial capital, creating a balance sheet that is 3x as large as the real economy, based on lalaland concepts such as debt and interest. 3. Germany's pull policy for immigration was and is very clearly directed at what they call "skilled workers". Poorer immigration is an effect of solidarity principles, not of ...

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I'll be honest this makes zero sense to me 😅

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You nailed it. The problem is that often the people that oppose immigration are the same ones that have offspring beyond the replacement rate.

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This has certainly been the case historically when output was more directly correlated with low cost human labor inputs. I’m not convinced it will be the case in the future as AI plays an increasingly significant role in the economy. Right now, I’d say we’re somewhere in the middle in the U.S./high income countries, and closer to the historical norm across emerging markets. Genuinely curious how anthropologists consider the role of tech in the perspective you're describing?

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I agree in part but not in others. childrate above the replacement isn't just planned fertility, *it's also drastically lowering mortality*. anthropologically, it seems reasonable to me that humans live as much as their time is freely consumable, and we'll invent washing machines & cars to maximize this aspect. yes, child-bearing is avoided as a luxury despite the traditional, rural counter to mortality on a subsistence farm. no, the majority of the wealth creation is still, imho, a marginal tech-augmented consumer. some rich can get richer just with mostly-mechanized product, not with bespoke labor.

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And then you have the wealthiest American man in the world trying to reproduce at the rate of Genghis Khan as the exception to this. 😂

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i heard the argument that every expansion of rights has only taken place to increase potential debt and my perception of the arc of the 'moral universe' has been twisted ever since

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That's a great perspective, I hope my country adopts it as soon as possible. 400 $farther

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Interesting point. 420 $degen

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