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Currently, we’re on the path of protocolizing digital governance. Yet it seems to be converging on esoteric jargon and functions, is there a path out? Is there something else that won’t lead us to localized ossification with niche standards, procedures, and a working class of governance technical support?
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whats the worst jargon? im too deep to realize probs
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I’m only becoming conscious of it now, but basically DAOs have evolved an entire vocabulary. Some examples: “Vote with Reason” “Proposal” “Queue” “Vote Delay” “Voting Period” “Governor” “Timelock” “Transfer” “Quorum” “Threshold”
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Some of these are pretty general concepts. To me, “Governor” is probably the likeliest to cause confusion since it’s a very general term used to refer to a specific member of the category. “Vote Delay” is not the clearest label. If anything, MolochDAO vernacular is the biggest offender here. Ragequit, loot, shamans, minions, etc
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That said, there is most definitely a really challenging balance between terminology specific enough for high quality discourse vs hyper-esotericism or exclusionary language. My current best thinking is to build on the existing language of governance rather than try to create our own (the Moloch meme was needed at the time but recently even DAOhaus has taken steps to moved away from some of the terminology)
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One thing that is critical to avoid is over-indexing on accessibility to the extent that we allow the marketing semantic treadmill to strip them of all meaning That happened with "DAO" in 2021/22 and it almost killed the movement (several times I was accused of gate-keeping when arguing that No, in fact not every group chat or token is a DAO)
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what almost killed the movement was not semantics, it was the lack of effective outcomes from almost any organization self-identifying as a DAO
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this is a very important point (one which I my previous casts should have done a better job of acknowledging/making) in reality of course it was a combination of factors, including the semantics. Typically when I talk to people who say DAOs don't work, they aren't referring to anything that is actually a DAO
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I should also say (as you know) that the challenge of creating effective DAO outcomes is precisely what my last 2 years has been devoted to, so I definitely agree that there are... problems to overcome 😅
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I feel like our industry would benefit from a 2021 DAO summer post-mortem. There is though game changing technology enabled by the DAO vision, and to me it feels like the one experiment that might actually crack the challenge of pseudonymous but “actually works” digital democracy
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