Why did everyone decide to abandon Discord with its full-featured UX for Telegram which, besides being Putin’s personal surveillance network or whatever, is just a serious PITA to use? Cramped, under-organized, fish-market vibes. Complete with general stinkiness. Worse, newer apps seem to emulate it as though it’s some sort of aspirational gold standard rather than an avoidable shit standard.

Not sure why, but despite their own problems, slack and discord feel like being in a spacious building while telegram feels like being in a black hole/boiler room. The move is like how we all gave up on TV and started consuming video on phones.

I think it’s because the “organization” abstraction is missing. The “community” type group with groups within just feels even more cramped. Like a new fishmonger squeezing in among existing ones.And the channel abstraction is crap.

Discord’s only real drawback is the huge VC funding overhang which will undoubtedly drive them to dumbass revenue moves soon.

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Great descriptions. Telegram has always been awful for me. Insane it's still so popular for group chats.