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Why are there so many leftists within crypto? As Solana says in his bankless episode, crypto disintermediates and reduces the power of the state. I get why libertarians and rightists like crypto, but why leftists? Leftists should want state power to enact leftist policy goals if they care about leftist outcomes.
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i think there's a common enemy element (big banks, big tech, etc.) and a "communal organizing" element, but yea it feels incongruent with the increasingly influential authoritarian flank
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Is the authoritarian flank in the room with us now?
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@mjc716
always
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Let's find out! Share your political compass. https://politicalcompass.org/ Here's mine (I'm a "Leftist"):
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@mjc716
i took it, but i don't feel properly represented by only two axes hehe
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Pics or it didn't happen. Lol you're an authoritarian aren't you?
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@mjc716
i x'd out but it was just inside the left libertarian box. but again, i refuse to be categorized by a mere two axes 😆
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Fair. But what say you now to the "Leftists are all authoritarians" trope? Because it sure seems that we have more in common than otherwise. 🤔
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I never said that!
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@erik
Are there at scale leftist outcomes that didn’t require the state to directly make them happen?
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Your definition of "at scale" here is unclear, which matters because many leftist efforts are hyperlocal or cosmolocal in nature (esp in crypto). The same interrogation could be made about capitalism, and any answers given would be just as debateable. Regardless, we're not talking about historical politics, we're talking about cryptopolitics so it's an irrelevant question. You're not arguing the merits of the positions in question. Would you like to discuss the issue at hand, or just redbait?
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I’m talking about national leftist desired outcomes, not kibbutz fantasies. I’m not sure you’ve addressed any of the points in question, but that’s ok.
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Lol "National Leftist". What an ignorant clown. To quote the meme.. "This is unproductive".
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Ad hominem ad hominem :)
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