honestly React Hooks and JSX are so fucking annoying. Just let me use god damn JavaScript for fucks sake. All this extra magic with useEffects, new syntax and producing incompatibilities with the regular JS event loop model is soooooo confusing. I now notice because I'm using nodejs a lot where everything is consistent

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Well put. After years of React pain I migrated to Svelte-land. It has minor issues but it’s way better than the alternatives.

I also find React elegant and a miracle.
It’s difficult to work with it tho.

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They have a great interactive tutorial on

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They have a great interactive tutorial on https://learn.svelte.dev/tutorial/welcome-to-svelte

SvelteKit is their full stack framework, like Next for React, that’s so much easier to work with.

Where’s a good place to start with Svelte? Been meaning to try it

It’s rare to write JS with JS these days…

Also, Svelte is JS. They even stretched JS label syntax to avoid using custom parser.

no sorry I also don‘t like svelte. I just want to write JS 😂