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@asenderling.eth
The provocateur and escalating force started as and continues to be Russia. They've consistently acted to worsen the war, now bringing in NK troops to fight on the ground. Don't fall for their posturing just because Ukraine gets a little more slack on the leash they've been put on.
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From Ukraine's perspective yes, but Russia isn't attacking the US. While Ukraine deserves help and support, the risk of nuclear war between the US and Russia can't be taken lightly.
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I mean one can also be anti Russian aggression and also realize lmfao that Ukraine wanting to join an organization that exists to literally punish and limit russia, did absolutely nothing wrong. It's also funny watching the liberals literally ignore all the soldiers with swastika patches who are like yeah what about it
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LOL you realize that if the US was facing a land war invasion there would probably be one or two neo-nazi militias involved in fighting right? Does that make the entirety of the US nazi-aligned? Russia's military has wayyyy worse than anything you'll ever see in Ukraine. Also your position and understanding of NATO is infantile.
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Lmfao that's why the entire country is making Bandera smoothies even government officials were calling them that https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/28/i-havent-told-my-granny-ukraines-student-molotov-cocktail-makers Bandera the famous litteral nazi collaborator
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LOL yeah clearly Ukraine is just full of Nazis, the country who literally elected a Jewish president. Bro you're falling so hard for the propaganda it's insanneeeeee
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Lmfao my dude azov brigade has been banned from receiving us weapons from the beginning of the invasion to just recently I'm not sure what you are talking about I'm falling for the propaganda, lmfao they literally just apointed a literal Bandera apologist to a state position, like are we going to argue that Bandera wasn't a nazi collaborator really? https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/01/02/poland-condemns-ukraines-commemoration-of-wartime-nationalist-leader-bandera/
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The propaganda is that there is any meaningful nazi presence in the Ukrainian military or resistance when the actual presence is negligible or meaningless, no Nazi ideologies are at risk of being spread amongst or by Ukraine. We have literal schools named after Robert E. Lee in the US, many of the Confederates are still publicly lionized in the South. Does that mean that if we were being invaded militias formed by Southerners would be some kind of meaningful representation of the US? Absolutely not, it would be entirely irrelevant and only used as propaganda by the invading force.
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Lmfao so why was azov brigade not allowed us weapons for almost 10 years? Like why even though it's been active war and the azov brigade has been part of the Ukranian military for that amount of time, why in 2024 were they finally cleared for us weapons access? I respect your takes but this is literally the most libbed up thing I've seen all week lmfao
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Maybe because their country is in a literal fight for their lives, for their right of autonomy and self-determination, and pearl clutching about the ideologies of some of their members when the ideologies of the invading force are far worse is the dumbest most infantile shit you can possibly care about.
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So now it's o they could be nazis but not as bad as the Russian nazis?
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My position this whole time has been that nazis, and people with nazi ideologies, are present *everywhere*, but that their presence in Ukraine is negligible and meaningless in this conflict.
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