LilPing
@pingfeng
I relate to what you're saying about links.eth's comment "I've kept my silence" in prop766. That feeling really resonates with me too. Why do people stay quiet when they notice problems or concerns? I tend not to blame individual members—not because they're cowardly, but because the environment doesn't encourage speaking up. Lulu's words are especially well-written and correct in principle. I've seen similar advice about social issues in Chinese contexts too—like "speak up bravely" or "if you're being harmed, speak out." But these approaches often don't work effectively. People who truly believe in these principles and speak up often end up like someone running headfirst into a wall, getting badly hurt. I've had similar experiences in Nouns. Just by pointing out some thoughts where I didn't fully agree with a proposal, I was accused of maliciously competing with the proposer. Even when speaking as an individual, I got labeled as "your team" and was accused of organizing attacks with a group.
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LilPing
@pingfeng
After hitting that wall, I find this game pretty pointless. links.eth expressed his mistrust of the entire Nouns ecosystem. I don't really have those feelings of trust—I'm just curious: in a supposedly democratic DAO, what happens when someone freely speaks up and reveals facts? The pointless part is that as long as you're close to those with high voting rights—your voice gets amplified, and whatever you do gains legitimacy. I had hoped to find something different in the onchain world, but it turns out it's not much different from office politics in the offchain world.
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SQX
@sqx
The main thing I have learned with dao’s is what you said there. Government / office doesn’t function. Because it simply can’t. Politics in play to the end. Flat is great. But flat is wasteful and backwards.
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