LilPing
@pingfeng
I relate to what you're saying about links.eth's comment "I've kept my silence" in prop766. That feeling really resonates with me too. Why do people stay quiet when they notice problems or concerns? I tend not to blame individual members—not because they're cowardly, but because the environment doesn't encourage speaking up. Lulu's words are especially well-written and correct in principle. I've seen similar advice about social issues in Chinese contexts too—like "speak up bravely" or "if you're being harmed, speak out." But these approaches often don't work effectively. People who truly believe in these principles and speak up often end up like someone running headfirst into a wall, getting badly hurt. I've had similar experiences in Nouns. Just by pointing out some thoughts where I didn't fully agree with a proposal, I was accused of maliciously competing with the proposer. Even when speaking as an individual, I got labeled as "your team" and was accused of organizing attacks with a group.
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LilPing
@pingfeng
After hitting that wall, I find this game pretty pointless. links.eth expressed his mistrust of the entire Nouns ecosystem. I don't really have those feelings of trust—I'm just curious: in a supposedly democratic DAO, what happens when someone freely speaks up and reveals facts? The pointless part is that as long as you're close to those with high voting rights—your voice gets amplified, and whatever you do gains legitimacy. I had hoped to find something different in the onchain world, but it turns out it's not much different from office politics in the offchain world.
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links 🏴
@links
Speaking up in a DAO is sticking your neck out. If you ever plan to write a proposal, it’s actually counter-productive to speak out against a popular proposal.
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SQX
@sqx
The last part is why in ⌐◨-◨. Speaking up many times is detrimental to funding ability. Or was… Shoot your shot. It is what it is. No bid contracts. And how dare you question pricing! Unannounced pivots (which I’m not against, but some have been detrimental to others whom were attempting to use noun protocol ‘composability’ Lots of ‘I’ s in ⌐◨-◨
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