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.@antonio, it took me half an hour of my European sun-sitting and cappuccino-enjoying time to create this info graphic, so I expect an apology for spreading misinformation https://i.imgur.com/4hoGyyw.png
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@dwr.eth
Except that’s not the relevant stat. It’s average age
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@timdaub.eth
Yeah, my graphic hides the fact that the European population pyramid is top heavy (that was intentional). But anyways, these data suggest that our active labor force is significantly bigger than that of the US. But sure Dan, you can zeihan-forecast that there'll be a demographic collapse soon, please go ahead 😆
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Since Spotify, what’s the most interesting thing that’s come out of Europe. Note: plenty of interesting things from Europeans living / working in the US Europeans are great; EU is sclerotic cf. GPT
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Also maybe this is silly, but in European cities we now have high quality food delivery to your doorstep with e-bikes within 15-20 minutes (Flink, Gorillaz). This has been a game changer for many. I think the US has it with Doordash too. But they fuckup the order, drive cars and it takes way longer.
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@dwr.eth
This is @antonio’s whole point which I agree with: average quality of life in Europe is better! But the future of civilization is not being built there.
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don’t you think maybe it’s a perception issue that they’re stale b/c they’re doing it slower through alternate models? eg infra is built as public-private partnerships. boring to profit maxi economy but more sustainable and b/c someone does it first without considerations should we label them futuristic?🤔
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@dwr.eth
It depends what you’re optimizing for. Empirically, the US model, despite many flaws!, has been the best for technological progress. Arguing otherwise means we’re going to have agree to disagree :)
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@osama
agree on the US model working to faster commercialization/globalization (distribution) which allows for more $ spend to further the technology at warp speed. disagree on dunking alternate models esp when we’re entering a chaotic world, some of those alt-models might help solve the identified flaws (idk, but open)
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
What does EU solve for? Esp. if US stops providing security blanket?
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@osama
Good at: maintaining status quo (learned from all the wars) and furthering research more as human endeavour and less for profit. didn’t need status quo when every1 was sprinting same direction to max growth. EU slumped. we need it in a polarized world. EU better than Middle East or India as bridges/middle grounds
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fwiw, I’m a network state maxi so I don’t believe these two demarcations will matter in 10years. I just feel there’s something to be learned from European society about time, life and being human
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