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Matthew
@matthew
My alarm bells always go off when I hear someone say "you don't need to know how to code now, you can build entire apps with LLMs." In theory yes, an LLM can generate an app if you prompt it right. But it's way more effective at prototyping interfaces, writing helper functions / sdks, making code simpler, modifying slightly, etc. *Not* one shotting an entire app on its own. I have not had a single instance where ChatGPT has written an entire app for me that I didn't need to write a ton of custom code to modify afterwards. What am I missing? Is it all just marketing delusion when ppl say that?
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Ayush Garg
@axg
people who have never built a thing, or have no idea about how design language works for a product, say that goodhart's law:
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🎀 sonya (in theory) 🐰
@sonyasupposedly
> Is it all just marketing delusion when ppl say that? yes, or their functional definition of "entire app" is pretty limited
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comz
@comz
this is right on. so far, havent witnessed an LLM able to write a solid, well-implemented app. but regardless of any code change to a codebase, whether human or LLM, a thorough code review should be a requirement. now if an LLM can do a reliable and trustworthy code review and merge, that's a game changer
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Ben - [C/x]
@benersing
If you were learning to code today, knowing where AI is and anticipating where its going, which coding language would you learn?
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links 🏴
@links
I’ve seen apps written mainly by LLM and in one case they wanted certain features which required an extension of their abstraction (basically adding a design pattern). The blank looks around the room when I white boarded it was not inspiring. LLMs are great, and there’s still plenty of stuff they don’t know (or their operators don’t know)
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Mo
@meb
Until we reach AGIs that can plan and execute better than humans, LLMs thrive with constrained context and a very clear goal. Sure, you can zero shot a working snake app, but building real world commercial software requires a lot more than just code writing skills
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Jacob
@jrf
i am in this cast
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Turtle🎩
@turtlepainter.eth
Ditto. I additionally get a bit depressed when this statement is thrown around frequently - probably because it makes me feel like what I'm working on currently will be obsolete in the near future making it seem pointless to continue coding.🌳
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