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I love POAPs, but why do I have to contact them to register an event? Feels very anti-crypto
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100%, the other thing that bothers me is how insufficient it is for viral IRL assembly. would be excellent if organizers could each have a "kiosk" that allows minters to create derivative kiosks. we need a significantly more permissionless event badge mechanism.
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Like derivative badges?
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kind of, more for the opportunity of having something very spontaneous, containing 10,000+ ppl to quickly spread a proof of attendance without relying on everyone meeting the same person, receiving a secret, etc. also, same thing for longterm IRL scavenger game. how do we cheaply but securely mint a plethora of proof
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@matthew
re your first point, what about just having a nft ticket for the event that just “becomes” the poap when you check in? most if not all large events have some kind of checkin process at the door. smaller events organizers probs know who was there. would love to know more about your last point tho!
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what about all the historic events that deliberately avoid a formal checkin? e.g. protests & strikes? same deal with a p2p scavenger games, is it really visibly fair if there isn't a way for anyone to just permissionlessly purchase the things to hide? unfortunately poap design is top-down w/ strict networking.
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@matthew
how would you solve it then?
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possibly an unlimited dutch auction (low-gas L2) 1155 mint + dynamic url QR code. ideally it could be indexed such that most attendees collect a huge # of very low-trust derivatives, & like gitcoin passport, score is distilled for sybil resistance. so earliest minters & high-trust derivatives might pay more for high...
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clickthru for the qr codes they generate, which might be part of the indexed score as well. I just think that if POAP uses negligible price to defend against farming, then likewise it should be entertained as the central mechanism for establishing permissionless minting. (high-trust = low index on 1155 series)
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for strictly web2 ppl, maybe lean on the dynamic qr code to funnel them into a patch wallet (@corbin.eth ). this is just my rough idea, but yeah, as a repeat organizer of POAP events and IRL attendee, there's room for improvement.
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and re: sybil resistance, if dynamic url QRs are deliberately apart at a distance as stickers, then maybe a nonsybil will go to the trouble of walking from kiosk to kiosk in a reasonable window to mint, otherwise index++ for tardiness. again, just riffing.
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re stuff like this i just still go back to the question of when there would not be a top-down organizer—how common is that really? also, maybe i’m just biased with @event, given that we never really deal with this
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one thing i will say is we want to move in the direction of letting communities fund meetups—and in that case, they will want some proof that attendees were actually there so the situation i’d be worried about selfishly is less about non-attendees, but rather the organizer colluding *with* attendees
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it's a fair choice, either way is opinionated. but from my POV, ticketmaster is offputting enough, and regardless of event format, attendees should have an alternative, nonfinancialized outlet for FOMO. again, just imho.
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