kenny 🎩 on Warpcast

kenny 🎩 pfp

weekly reminder that this feed does nothing to benefit conversational depth on this app until it includes reply bumping

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Steen!!! pfp

keep fighting the good fight. didn't they try to a/b test reply bumping recently though? assuming they didn't like the results.

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kenny 🎩 pfp

have heard of 0 a/b tests and if they were done I'd be skeptical that they were done fairly

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Goksu Toprak pfp

What benefit does it bring to Warpcast and to Farcaster to run experiments unfairly? Also — you are wrong. We have ran reply bumping tests many times and will be running more soon.

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well people that want a certain answer run tests a certain way to get themselves that answer sometimes it happens totally unconsciously as well I've worked on analytics on hundreds of websites in my life, most "unfair" tests aren't malicious, it's people analyzing data without thinking of all the variables that may be influencing how that data was gathered

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for instance, I'm aware of your reply bumping "tests" @gt, but you're collecting bad data when you run them because power users like me gave up scrolling the feeds we know they won't reliably give us reply bumping from every comment of every person we follow, we'll get random algo-approved comments sprinkled in here and there testing that as a way of testing whether a pure reply bumping feed (what we had pre-2024) would help things be more interesting on here makes no sense, the core people you want to test the product are never going to see it

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Goksu Toprak pfp

I don't think I follow your point here. Are you suggesting that a network of this size is not capable of running valuable tests because you have trained yourself to no longer scroll the feeds?

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kenny 🎩 pfp

the point is that running a few scattered tests of adding replies to feeds does not equal testing whether or not a dedicated feed with reply bumping would be beneficial you are testing a different product, and even if it was the same product, many of the people that would be your likely test subjects (power users like me) aren't even there to give you meaningful feedback

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kenny 🎩 pfp

honestly though the bigger problem is thinking that a reply bumping feed needs A/B testing to be justified at all a chrono/reply bumping feed carried this app to the peak of its growth in February, it's a fine product that hurts nothing if implemented

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Goksu Toprak pfp

It seems to me that you and I have a fundamental difference between what carries an app to growth. Hopefully we will ship an update on feeds soon that is satisfactory enough for you.

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kenny 🎩 pfp

fair enough 🤝 btw if you haven't seen it yet, I think you'd find this analysis from @yesyes on how removing reply bumping impacted discussions pretty illuminating https://paragraph.xyz/@yesyes/checking-the-comment-velocity-of-real-users I find it hard to believe anyone thinks that the network is better off when users talk to each other less

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