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All that work, stress, and money just to get the same life expectancy as a European in poverty https://www.euronews.com/health/2025/04/03/why-do-poor-people-in-western-europe-live-longer-than-wealthy-americans

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yeah I guess it boils down to whether you want to live a few extra years in a miserable rent controlled apartment or roll the dice for the chance at owning property with few safety nets in place

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You aren’t a Euro though? I genuinely don’t understand why you haven’t immigrated. You openly hate everything about your country yet stay there and why

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I think both of those options are totally valid fwiw. canada is sort of a mix of both EU and U.S. imo.

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The descriptor “miserable” on the apartment suggests otherwise America is so rich there is no reason for what we see here, would be my argument. I really think you have to leave Canada.

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oh I totally agree re: america the basic tradeoff of the EU model is that you give up some upside, can’t earn more than 60k, but in turn you don’t have medical or tuition debt. probably don’t work more than 40hr/week. suits the majority of people, I think, but maybe less appealing to ambitious people. tradeoffs all around, no easy way out.

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Yes I know about your seething contempt for your countrymen. I could debate it but won’t. I just find it inexplicable you hate them that much and never talk about leaving I am typing this sitting next to a Canadian immigrant who doesn’t even have a STEM degree so I know its possible

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don’t think anything I said was seething, just that you trade upside for safety nets which is a fair description. canada and EU are fairly similar except the EU goes a step further with payroll taxes and free tuition. canada also has spottier healthcare in comparison, I think. so canada is sorta like an EU-US hybrid in many ways, maybe a good set of tradeoffs in the grand scheme of things. don’t think it’s above criticism, though.

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No I just mean generally dude not here 😂 like in the grand scheme of all that you say Or maybe don’t. IMO America has taken it too far. We are now in a place where for every cracked capitalist we get many more total parasites/fent addicts. What we have, can’t last.

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I dunno, I don’t think anything I post about canada is too extreme. housing is unaffordable, salaries aren’t great, taxes are relatively high, services are a mixed bag. maybe I’m too harsh sometimes, you’re probably right. doesn’t mean that the U.S. is somehow magically better lol. it’s like someone criticizing the democrats and then calling them a Trump supporter. from my personal anecdotal experience, my mom bought a house in a non-coastal canadian city over 10yr ago for $121k CAD and it’s now worth $400k. in the same period of time her salary hasn’t changed much from $65-69k. so, basically a house went from attainable to unattainable for the average person in the time that I went through high school and university. probably not really unique to canada though, just sucks to see when there is arguably a lot of potential here.

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