Ethereum

The Ethereum ecosystem seems to be gravitating towards 0 miner tips.

Geth fixing it's minimum tip enforcement to 1 gwei caused some outrage; blobs do not tip miners at all; and multi-dimentional gas might also not.

I'm worried this again favours MEV.

The Ethereum ecosystem seems to be gravitating towards 0 miner tips.

Geth fixing it's minimum tip enforcement to 1 gwei caused some outrage; blobs do not tip miners at all; and multi-dimentional gas might also not.

I'm worried this again favours MEV.

https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/1043#issuecomment-2112364286

I do not consider myself to be an authority on making that decision for the ecosystem, but running with 0 miner tips will have notable effects on the centralization of block production IMO, so we should be deliberate about what we're running towards. So pls consider.

I guess the catch is how to you optimise for multiple tip flavors? At least EVM execution gas is lower than what's requested, so the tip is not guaranteed. It works now because you can greedily select the best.

But for multi dimensional tips to work, we need them to be deterministic without needing to run the tx first

There's no per-blob tip in EIP-4844, but at least my multidimensional gas proposal (EiP-7706) includes a per-gas tip for all three types of gas.