so

passkey wallets don't solve the seed phrase problem

they just rename concepts. Now Apple, 1Password, etc is backing up your "seed phrase"

fundamentally the only people who have eliminated seed phrases are the zk folks who built wallets that can operate on zkp's of other identities

e.g https://emailwallet.org

Really excited to see more stuff like this take off

OIDC stuff just moves the pieces around? No matter what there is some auth and some means by which you can lose access to it.

the key is whether the piece is net-new, or something you already custody

this is another gotcha that non crypto apps very generally don't have

The misunderstanding is that not everyone has iCloud keychain enabled, and certainly some very small percentage of the population uses 1password

so the average case is not backed up

if we're talking about onboarding a billion people these are the discussions folks need to have...

iCloud, OnePassword, etc. aren’t net new, right? You only lose passkeys if you lose those? Or maybe I misunderstand.