Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
@keccers.eth thoughts? https://x.com/ritwikpavan/status/1908257771948249264
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Jake Casey
@jakeacasey
I wonder if it'll eventually be able to tell you if you have covid, they can track that through wastewater. You won't even need to test anymore. That push notification would be wild. "Oh my toilet says I have covid" We really are in the future.
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keccers
@keccers.eth
Where I used to work we were building an attachment to do this for poop and pee, but with no test strips! Pee is way harder than poop because most of the information in it, is gated by being able to test it with some sort of reagent or whatever. Poop the look and frequency alone can give you health information. I feel like to have truly consumer friendly always on urinalysis requires it to be built into the toilet, with some kind of test component you replace with new reagent. Make it so that topping off your toilets test setup does not require you to regularly reach into the bowl. Challenge then becomes — how do you convince people that’s worth replacing a toilet for? How often does one actually replace a toilet?
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Jake Casey
@jakeacasey
I would build it into the tank, I think. I suspect you could build a hanger that would (as the water refills in the top tank) distributes the correct amount of reagent into the water, then when it's flushed it would run against both the sensor (which has captured some urine??). But I know next to nothing about this I'm just spitballing because I love cool weird problems. For the poop version were you running like vision models on the poop?? If so that's also so cool???
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keccers
@keccers.eth
Yes, exactly. Paid GIs abroad to classify them for cheap. Difficult still as there are plenty of things that regularly make its way into the toilet bowl that aren’t poop that are poop like, esp if you are a woman Working in consumer health tech in the end frustrated me because I think our collective attitude towards these products is wrong We expect instant returns from what are ultimately low fidelity long term measurement tools. You don’t use an Apple Watch to actually count steps — it’s a proxy for your daily activity that you can look at to gauge how much you have moved over time I want my health tech future to be stuff that’s set it and forget it and does not come with an app that forces you to be overly mindful of any one metric on any given day Will require radical rethinking as most cos reliant on delivering cheap hits to convince you to keep buying into a subscription model. I am bullish on Apple for health simply because they can afford to operate in the truly passive way I dream of
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Jake Casey
@jakeacasey
Have you checked out Athlytic? It's got a yearly sub, not as egregious as the others, and uses apple watch data. https://www.athlyticapp.com/ My guess is it goes a bit against your thesis as it still has these 'instant return' metrics (and literally is an app). But I've found it to be a happy medium for me personally. My ultimate hope is actually the same as yours, that Apple eats all their lunches and handles all of this in-house, and I think the recent 'vitals' update is their first step towards that. Sometimes I also wonder if these health metrics etc are kind of like.. a bunch of info leads you back to the same places: sleep well, eat well, get enough exercise, try not to be too stressed out. Cause even if I look at these metrics it generally boils down to me fucking up one of those things, ya'know?
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keccers
@keccers.eth
What strikes me is how inexpensive this is. $2.50/mo for comparable insights to the WHOOP! Even the so-called low cost fitness apps that come with their own hardware come in at about $5-$6/mo The value of this type of insight is getting harder and harder to justify — especially when you’re right , it usually all comes back to the basics
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