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manansh ❄️
@manansh
whenever you’re “agenda-less”, you’re in meditation.
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@hyp
hmm. not sure I'm on board with this, although that's a good start. I think you can be agendaless and aware or agendaless and unaware.
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Tholu Tharling Rebuild Project
@trophaeum
And you can have an agenda and be aware. At some point life itself is the meditaton.
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manansh ❄️
@manansh
Exactly! — “agenda” for me is closer to “implied expectations” of how things ought to be. Which you may have for yourself, for the mediation, for other people, etc… My instinct is that by dropping these for a moment, you can experience “life as the meditation”
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Tholu Tharling Rebuild Project
@trophaeum
I see. From the perspective of "life as mediation" there isn't a problem with having expectations, the disappointment of unmet expections or the joy of realized expectations because in the light of awareness these things dissolve just as they arise.
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@hyp
I can get to a place where I am uninvolved and presumably aware of all the activities of mind as thos activities in themselves. Awareness of awareness, turning back on one's awareness I feel is next step.
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@hyp
but I also feel like maybe that's a false summit, that maybe the only place to arrive is where you recognize you are your experiences. All of them.
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Tholu Tharling Rebuild Project
@trophaeum
When you look into awareness you don't find anything. Not in the sense of a dead void, but in the sense of no obstructions or limitations. Awareness is naturally free, it's just a matter of realizing it.
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