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yuga.eth
@yuga
I love Mitt Romney, but he is utterly wrong. Human ethics do not apply to state actors. We accept this the moment we grant a monopoly on violence to the state. Morality cannot be the rubric we apply to political leaders. It is dangerous to do so. The relevant lens is the national interest.
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Henri Stern Ꙫ
@henri
Yours is a version of “the ends justifies the means.” I am not sure I could disagree with you more strongly than I do. Our leaders represent us. The abandon of humanism in politics in favor of “man is a wolf to man”-style cynicism is a great failure. It will not lead to a nice place for us.
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yuga.eth
@yuga
It is a reality of the world that the United States has conveniently ignored for 80 years, to its great detriment.
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Henri Stern Ꙫ
@henri
To its great detriment?! Bretton Woods and the Marshall Plan did more for US hegemony the worldover than any military intervention or coercive diplomacy since. Since then there have been excesses of passivity but nuance is not a sin and there are times for hawks doves both. Beware overrationalization.
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Henri Stern Ꙫ
@henri
Read “a globalized world has been to the USs profit (and the world’s) for the back half of the 20th century, it just went too far unchecked.” The link between open markets and democracy was misread.
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yuga.eth
@yuga
You seem to be conflating liberalism with morality. Or at least implying some close association. I believe the two are distinct.
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Henri Stern Ꙫ
@henri
Humanism and morality, not liberalism. My worldview hopes to most inherit from Enlightenment politics. The state allows man to lift himself above base needs. It elevates us so we can reach beyond survival or pure contests of strength as the core marker for value. When statehood reaches for tribalism as its core mechanism for action (the basis for populism), we do the opposite. So yes, I think moral character for our leaders matters a great deal.
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