Geoff Golberg
@geoffgolberg
FC DAU is overstated by at least 5X; the same doesn't hold true for Twitter, FB, IG, etc. https://warpcast.com/cojo.eth/0x90d18f2b https://warpcast.com/nounishprof/0xe7e94086
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Colin Johnson 💭
@cojo.eth
1. Are you talking about the protocol or a client? 2. Which definition of DAU are you using? 3. Who is overstating it? 4. Where are you getting private DAU data for Twitter? 5. How are you defining DAU on that platform? 6. Who is making the declaration on those platforms?
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Geoff Golberg
@geoffgolberg
1. Effectively WC *is* the protocol (though I am referencing FC) 2. One that doesn't include follow-for-follow sockpuppet networks (where hundreds/thousands of accounts are controlled by an individual/group).. to provide an example 3. Merkle (see screenshot for an example of dwr cheerleading an inflated DAU) 4. I have been swimming in Twitter data since 2017.. back when it was effectively an open data layer (lots of people with zero knowledge on this stuff offering up their opinions here) 5. Accounts that are active and don't violate their rules & policies https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/authenticity 6. Many people here – yourself included – are leveraging whataboutism to justify FC's inflated DAU/protocol metrics ("There is zero chance that bot activity is worse on Warpcast than X")
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Colin Johnson 💭
@cojo.eth
Obviously Farcaster is a decentralized protocol, meaning you can't stop spammy content at the base level. It's at least as disingenuous to draw parallels between a protocol layer and a client app as it is to call potential bots DAU. To determine the user experience honestly, you'd look at the visible posts and engagements displayed by the client. But that's not what you've done, because it wouldn't be as juicy of a story (and it's not readily available data). Dan's bull post from 10 months ago is the smoking gun for the team somehow misleading people? That's laughable, the team literally created a public protocol so people like us could have ultimate transparency. A single exaggerated post from a year ago is a wild thing to clutch pearls over.
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Geoff Golberg
@geoffgolberg
When basically all the protocol's users leverage Warpcast, how is it disingenuous? (especially when both are owned by Merkle!) Decentralizing social doesn't all of a sudden alleviate it of all the (platform manipulation specific) issues that have led to the attrition of web2 social
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Colin Johnson 💭
@cojo.eth
Giving an analysis of the intentionally ungovernable underbelly of users is not an accurate depiction of the experience that users have once the filters are applied. No one is arguing that decentralization alleviates the platform specific manipulation. Quite the opposite. I'm personally arguing that the filtered layer which we can see as "governable" is in fact well-governed right now. I agree that Dan pointing to ungoverned protocol DAU is also a low value way of representing the experience, but founders are gonna bullpost and we have access to the real data - which is awesome.
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Geoff Golberg
@geoffgolberg
Filters sweep the underlying problem under the rug I believe the protocol layer needs to be more opinionated (i.e. nerfing accounts) for decentralized social to scale https://warpcast.com/geoffgolberg/0x8aa8b1fb
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