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Spotify seeds in-house produced music in playlists created for “passive consumption” so they can pay themselves for your streams https://www.honest-broker.com/p/the-ugly-truth-about-spotify-is-finally
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These in-house artists are Shopify's version of "Amazon Basics". Love it.
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But no. That’s not a correct comparison because they try to hide this. If the artist was correctly attributed “Spotify Studios” it would be this way but they hide behind fake names trying to deceive the user into thinking it’s an actual artist
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Competing unfairly & disclosing it still seems shady. They both created an efficient online marketplace, then expanded it to more markets, and are now competing unfairly within those markets. Putting an "I cheated" sign on the first result doesn't move the needle much.
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It seems obvious that their strategy is to go "too far" like this, make a huge debate around "should we disclose it?!?", and then finally cave to the will of the people. And Spotify will win, but "the people" will have apparently won. vs if they disclosed out of the gate, people would debate the cheating directly.
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The author's solution is bad -- like, would the labels do better? Which labels own the platform? Do new artists have vesting cliffs? Drawing the lines between the current definitions of "musician" and distributors ("labels" "platforms" whatever) is probably not that important. We should let music get weird, then better.
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I dislike the dishonesty of the company in this case. I don't have much dog in a fight about how Spotify has diminished the value of music and getting artists paid fairly and all that. The market does not really value creativity and I don't see that changing in my lifetime
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I see that -- and I think they already have a plan to "lose" and disclose it. And... I also dislike the cheating... but it's outweighed by how much fun it is to watch Spotify eat itself. As a consumer, I don't feel deceived by the mechanics of the flow-of-funds from Spotify -> artist. AI might change that.
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I don't think it's cheating even!!! Who is to say just that Spotify made it, it's even that bad of music!! IDK. Tons of normal people cheat on there too by doing all kind of stupid stuff like 24hr white noise tracks and making junk songs for every longtail search and person possible. Just don't lie to me that's really all I ask. I do think Apple Music has the better model. I believe it is # of unique listeners based rather than per stream. How would AI change it?
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I would feel duped if the song was mostly AI-generated and I didn't know it. (there was no way to interpret this meaning from my cast lol).
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