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Ben
@jarmen
The new lower fork prop (candidate )must be from a concerned citizen, valid arguments but why hide? At best you can use ownership and participation to help convince the need. At worst, you're left to roll with the 30%
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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
0 fork threshold is dumb idea bc it’s an immediate arb opportunity
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Spencer Perkins
@spencerperkins.eth
* 0 threshold => rage quit * Auction price will jump to book value * Treasury will be drained N %, where N is % Nouners leaving From DAO perspective, better off to spend the treasury and bring book value down to auction prices first Do understand the sentiment behind the candidate tho. Minority holders shouldn’t be forced into DUNA if they don’t want. Tricky, tricky
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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
Spend the treasury to bring auction prices down is what the burn aimed to do. It never got full buy in though, it’s a cool idea but in my opinion it’s not the best way to run an org to be forced to spend money. It’s better to save and then spend when the best ideas come around and you have the best opportunity to deploy capital. If we were forced into a situation where RQ was turned out to let non duna fans out, sure, I’d rather spend some money on props than let folks get away with the easiest arb ever. But since turning on this RQ is a choice, it’s not a choice I’m a fan of based on what I know now.
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Spencer Perkins
@spencerperkins.eth
I think your main argument is against the fork in general tho. If 30% want to leave, same thing happened with a threshold of 0% or 30%. https://warpcast.com/spencerperkins.eth/0xc48b3730
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Michael Gingras (lilfrog)
@frog
Yes I think the fork is an unnecessary overreaction that has caused way more harm than any good it’s ever done. Both in terms of lost treasury but also culture and turning folks away from nouns (I have had conversation with folks who become entirely less interested in nouns as a result of the experiment effectively being refundable) My opinions on the fork aside though — I’m not seeing how it’s the same? If 30% threshold, you need hundreds of participants. If 0, you have rage quit. Anyone can just leave and get their money back.
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Spencer Perkins
@spencerperkins.eth
IMO, fork is an interesting mechanism, and think some form of minority protection is good design long term (but not sure it’s slow vest and reimbursement). On the flip side of the people you mentioned, there are likely folks who are more interested because of the fork. Myself being one of them mostly because I’m for minority protection, and interesting governance experiments. My claim is that IF 30% wanted to leave, a threshold of 0% or 30% doesn’t matter, it results in the same DAO drain. I.e lowering threshold means better minority protection (smaller minority can leave). The difference is what happens to auction prices during the period of a 0% threshold: https://warpcast.com/spencerperkins.eth/0x55d48720
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