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@dwr.eth
Looking for people who are frustrated with the changes and new direction for channels. Last week, we got a lot of good feedback from people happy with / excited about the changes. See below. Now I want to highlight what's still not working for people. Specifically: 1. What's frustrating? 2. What would make it better? https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0xcf622e07
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The main thing that I find myself looking for is the way to become a member. From my experience there are lots of different ways (gated, not possible, free to enter etc.) but it's actually not clear if and how I can join. Some channels have it as a link, some others as a pinned cast but there is no clear and standardized path.
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Do you have a few examples of channels where this is unclear?
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@elie
I didn’t know it was clear in any channel. Is there a join channel button I missed?
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@elie
Am I missing something?
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@gm8xx8 may not be interested in more members right now.
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So there’s one person that controls the ai channel on Farcaster 🤔 I’m not a decentralisation maxi but this strikes me as strange for the sufficiently decentralised social media app
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It’s not a canonical topic or hashtag. We tried that for a year. Did not work. There’s /theai You can cast in your home feed to all of your followers. You can create a competing channel. The goal is communities, not generic topics that no one cares about.
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As a user it felt like it worked. Obviously you have deeper insight there. But the current iteration feels more like “does not work” to me. Going further with improvements: Add a request to join button. I don’t understand how the ux is better if you need to dm someone. Or having every channel pin a tweet saying to reply / dm
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> As a user it felt like it worked Right, but then no one actually went to channel feeds, because they were communities. There was at best marginal benefit looking at the data. So basically all it did was let people feel like they were getting something. Request to join 1. Would create another inbox for owners / mods. Imagine thousands of requests a week to weed through. More work. 2. Adding a lot of members quickly to a channel is not ideal, because the community doesn't get a chance to form. Stepping back, what benefit was casting in a channel in the old model for you if I told you there was practically no distribution boost nor did it increase the number of people following you (since very few people visited channel pages).
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Regarding the last point, I thought it did give a distribution boost. How I thought it worked: If I follow the dev channel, then dev posts will appear in my feed, even if I don’t follow the person. But seems like it didn’t work that way?
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About 1: The current situation is send the channel owner a dm. If we’re worried about more work/friction that feels a lot more friction on all parties involved.
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Channels shouldn't grow their memberships quickly! It will hurt the community part of it. Channel owners can set up Cura from @openrank /channel-kit is another good example If a channel owner hasn't set up an easy way to join, they probably don't want to have more members in their channel.
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Last point on this: Certain channels feel like they should be public domain. Or easily open to the masses. Ai, screens, dev - these aren’t mini communities that someone should own. These feel like public domain. If there’s an ondeck channel then sure, let ondeck control it.
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But what benefit does a large channel have if there is no distribution from it? The satisfaction in tagging a cast in a category? I'm genuinely curious because I keep telling people that outside of participating in a community, there's no benefit to channels.
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