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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Why don't you clean up "the bots"? Useful to be precise here: "bots" is a catch all term that people use to describe low effort, uninteresting or otherwise off-topic content. However, a "bot" is traditionally thought of as a programmatic account, i.e. controlled by a script or software. e.g. bot net When people on Farcaster refer to "bots" they are more often referring to actual people using a mobile device (with the aid of translation tools and ChatGPT) who post uninteresting content (from their pov). They are casting and replying in hopes of appearing to be a "real account" because they have learned that turns into a future economic reward in crypto. Recent tipping meta has increased the expected value of these accounts. It's possible to algorithmically label these accounts, but then you create a "shadowban" meta. So you massively increase the number of support messages and complaints. This was the state of the world before priority mode.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
We're going to keep iterating here, but our pov is: 1. Priority mode works pretty well out of the box 2. We need to offer ways for actual interesting accounts to break through 3. We'll likely bring back some version of spam labeling since priority mode has created it's own set of customer support complaints. "Why don't you just use onchain signals?" a. Based on our waitlist last year of 300K sign ups, "bots" have plenty of Ethereum addresses with assets. b. Most new users don't want to connect an address during sign up (friction, doesn't work well on mobile). So you'll miss out of on good accounts. c. Active onchain presence != you regularly post interesting content. There are some people of course, but plenty of examples otherwise.
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Giancarlo🎩
@giancarlodc.eth
What are the counter arguments on adding a Sybil Detection step somewhere along the way, not necessarily right at account creation, to avoid having that as friction but still trying to clean a bit of the trash that comes in?
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Define trash? Someone is an actual human that's uninteresting. If you see their reply, you would call it a "bot"? How do you handle?
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Giancarlo🎩
@giancarlodc.eth
An uninteresting person can learn and become interesting. A person that spams the same messages across the board in every interaction, is not an uninteresting person, but something like a “virus” that’s here to gain “easy money”, farming like a script, but more versatile and smart for being a human. You think these people would go through steps of verification aka “boring human validation” just to continue farming? I believe some could consider that too much work for it to be worth it. And maybe if they decide to go through it, they’ll do all of that just to fall into millions of other strategies built just to mitigate that kind of behavior. Which is all the work you guys have been adding with every evolution of the platform.
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new era
@logosiasis.eth
You’re being naive about this. When I see 10 accounts back to back with the same uninteresting statement, it’s not uninteresting people. It’s literal bots.
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