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my hot take on AI-assisted coding: it's now easier than ever to tangle yourself into a big ball of unmaintainable spaghetti if you don't know what you're doing

but competent teams can also achieve very scalable + well-engineered systems much faster than ever before

the human in the loop is still absolutely crucial

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i think you are correct that we can improve a *lot* with current tech 

but, counterpoint: great system design can exist at the edge of even humans’ cognitive abilities and requires experience and creativity in bespoke situations that are beyond what’s available in a LLM’s training set (however huge) 

perhaps we need large models that are somehow trained on a higher dimension than serialized tokens, or on data that is otherwise modeled to better fit a specific domain like distributed systems? (cc @swabbie.eth)

my head hurts 😅

spot on

but more and more I am getting convinced this is mainly a reasoning limitation that can be fixed with enough agents in the pipeline

its the one shot that makes it so inconsistent, the extra context helps but breaks character limits and muddies the problem solving

Half the time you can see yourself that the ai is wrong while its writing a solution but it has nonway to course correct at the minute

i have no idea how i could manage that workflow 🫠

i am constantly reviewing the diff and try to only commit stuff i have read and understand to add some quantum of functionality (relatively infrequently)

i get the sense i need to let go a bit

I've noticed committing *a lot* more to git, as that's the only way to maintain the otherwise unmaintainable spaghetti

Yea without some redirects at key points, composer/interpreter goes crazy. 

I’ve had to dedicate time to cleanup / optimization every few days or it gets unmanageable.

💯♥️ Agreed.. 
AI is a powerful tool, but without skilled oversight, it can lead to chaos… I believe  the human element remains essential for creating scalable and maintainable systems… 

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I oscillate between spagethi and great speed

If I have no idea AI gets me to functional spaghetti that I can prompt about to explain and improve

If I know what I am doing then I code it or am so specific in prompt that it’s good

Every time I’ve been successful with AI in programming it’s because I had a very specific thing I wanted to do that I knew I could do, but didn’t want to spend an hour reading docs to figure out. Just passing broad concepts to Claude has been a massive waste of my time.

cursor got boolean logic wrong last night. I tried with progressively more precise comments and prompt instructions six times, and it still didn't propose the code a human would have. Skill issue ig?

This is kinda what happened to me when i was making a frame

Still learned a shit load getting hands on though