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Lefties who are tired of election “panic”: what’s the alternative? When was the panic not warranted? I’m serious in my asking.
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Watch lefties just not vote at all bc Kamala was a prosecutor in her early years 🫠
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I'll be campaigning to get as many leftists as possible voting for Jill Stein. I definitely would not support Kamala but more because the Dems are die-hard imperialist warmongers and not just because she was a prosecutor (though that is also bad).
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One victory at a time friend. I do understand some of your core frustrations but… What you are describing is literally organizing defeat.
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Why should we collaborate with the dnc, every 2 years the dnc says this is the most important election of our lives, we must rally around this moderate candidate and keep this tragedy from happening, and progressives do then get fucked. I don't even agree with the dnc platform, i just want people to have rights( which I don't trust the dnc not to fuck over other groups because they have time and time again while doing the bare minimum to say they are progressive) on a global scale Biden would be center right at best
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Bernie and Warren had massive roles in setting the agenda of Biden’s first term. This how “build back better” took shape and then eventually became IRA etc… So I don’t think it’s quite as simple as the progressives getting fucked but I do understand the sentiment… particularly around the dnc and Bernie in 2016.
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I hear all of this. I am definitely a pragmatist as opposed to a purest. I wouldn’t describe myself as a centrist but I think a pragmatist could read that way without knowing what’s actually in their hearts and minds. It all comes down to the tradeoffs being made from my POV. For me right now… it is extremely important Trump and the administration he would install is not returned to power.
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Like I get the point you're making and I appreciate it, but I don't see any of those as "progressives"
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Bernie is borderline centrist imo and Warren is firmly centrist, Kamala was sold as a progressive to counter Biden as a moderate but she's a moderate centrist, so like where is the real progressives Shit AoC and the "squad " sold out the working class first chance they got with the train strike
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Bernie and the progressives have been completely neutralized by the war machine by playing along with the Dems in exchange for some domestic policy influence (notice their influence never touches core issues of empire maintenance like weapons to Israel, 900 military bases around the planet, mass incarceration or political prisoners or Dem Party corruption or the Epstein files)
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