Quilibrium

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need an opinion from @cassie on this  https://security.apple.com/blog/imessage-pq3

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They did a lot of marketing gloss on this one. There's some pretty bold claims being made, and unfortunately the claims don't hold like they say they do.

- No deniability. They claim to be better than Signal, and that this is irrelevant, but it is 100% a requirement to be at least on par.
- Post-compromise security is not immediate, in their own words its on the order of "50 messages" to "7 days" for rekeying to occur.

High level (most important to least):
- Identity keys are still EC, the PQ related key is verified by an EC signature in the hierarchy. This makes PQ claims dead in the water
- Uses hybrid encryption (not unreasonable), P-256 for EC (unreasonable), Kyber-768 (might be reasonable, time will tell, but I don't trust NIST)

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It needs to work in a world where the way they did things before are broken, but it trusts one of those broken things, making it pointless in use in a post-quantum world, only somewhat useful now. They also said they did things better than Signal, but that isn't entirely true.