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right now, the largest accountsโ€”those with 300k+ followersโ€”receive roughly the same amount of likes as accounts with 50k followers; this is a problem if we continue to add bots at current pace, there will be accounts here with 1M+ followers receiving <50 likes per cast if this happens, it will most certainly be the death of the network as a โ€œghost townโ€ narrative will form & ultimately takeover too many games & protocols have succumbed to the same future not to make this the #1 priority right now so, fuck the dau figures; fuck the vanity following figures; we must kill the bots & cleanse the network imo, this becomes an existential risk if itโ€™s not already
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@pichi
Do you have thoughts on how many real people are here?
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iโ€™ve seen estimations of 2/3 real but tbh it feels lower than that
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It feels way lower to me too. I think the spam is getting better but I still struggle with a lot of random comments that seem like they arenโ€™t from actual people.
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Feels more like 50/50 on a good day, judging by the new followers I get. I think a block button would help with this. If the account is blocked enough times, then consequences. I would block all the bots to prevent them from responding again. Bots need to be fought on all levels.
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it's rough. But it's the reality, and it feels kind of hopeless to fight it. Look at X, it's terrible there too. I am really not sure what can be done. (Maybe employ an LLM to check for bots?) BTW, some of accounts that look like bots are actually human farmers I think, so that makes it even more difficult
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Human farmers will need to decide their futures then. If they implement a block button, I'm sure I'll block some humans but also I'm just not interested in that behavior. There are other use cases for a block button too. People steal my content all the time. I wish I could stop these people from seeing it. In general, if I was given the option, I'd would prevent a number of people and bots from having access to my account. Idgaf about follower count, I'm here for actual users.
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Not arguing against the Block button btw! But it's not the solution that will scale to solve this. Going by the core facts that Farcaster is permissionless, and only clients can actually deal with spam and bots, the best that can be done, I think, is to train AI to detect repetetive spam and bots, and maybe even accept a few false positives. Not sure that anything else can work. Biometrics is not the solution.
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Yeah I don't have all the answers and there isn't a neat solution that fixes everything. There are going to need to be several points of combat to fight bots. OP asked "what can we do?" This is 1 of the things they can do.
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I worry about the bots that are hardest to spot. There are some accounts where I really canโ€™t tell anymore. They could just be using a translator and not understand the culture here. Itโ€™s getting weird.
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