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most problems in human culture thus far are caused by humans thinking a cheap shortcut is equal to actually putting in the work
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swampnet
@swampnet
My problem with this is the implication that losing weight the traditional way (diet and exercise) is something that people are choosing not to do. Weight loss is extremely difficult if not impossible for many people for a myriad of biological reasons. There isn’t anything immoral about taking a medication that has the potential to help you with this if losing weight is something you want to do. IMHO. 💕
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the problem I have with this line of thought is that these people could’ve avoided the weight they have to lose by not taking the cheap shortcut of ultraprocessed foods, which many of them more than likely have lived a lifetime consuming: and while that’s not their fault entirely either the problem is the cheap shortcut of ultraprocessed foods shouldn’t have ever been allowed to happen: corruption in the system we have to root out
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
Lmfao I mean how many Americans would love to afford more than cheap ultra processed foods all the time
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why i mentioned it’s not their fault directly
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swampnet
@swampnet
Why are we so disturbed by fatness that we treat it like people are too dumb, lazy or poor to know how to care for their bodies? I’m not saying that the USA isn’t at fault for literally everything ever, but also, the idea that fatness is an epidemic that needs to be solved, when scientific evidence that fatness CAUSES so many serious medical problems (and for example isn’t actually a symptom of medical problems) is limited and literature is deeply flawed. Bodies have changed throughout human history in a myriad of ways. For example, our feet have gotten bigger. Are we framing this as a health problem and then also saying a potential cure for it (ozempic) is the lazy way and should carry its own stigma? It feels like there is an overall moral panic around fatness, and people in thin bodies (and fat ones) feel entitled to police fat peoples bodies in a way we don’t do with other parts of the population. So Is the world going to be a better place if we get rid of the fat people?
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Purp🇵🇸
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Yeah but I wouldn't necessarily call it a cheap shortcut either, as someone in rural America the current situation is super frustrating For about 25k people in this parrish to get anything more than a Walmart it's a minimum of a 40 minute drive, for about 75% of that population for them to get anything more than a dollar store is 15 minutes period. https://www.researchamerica.org/press-releases-statements/national-survey-shows-affordability-and-access-to-nutritious-foods-is-a-challenge-for-many-americans/
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