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im a scientist because i want my priors to change ur a cultist because you’re scared and want your priors to be static we are not the same
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@ds8
devil's advocate: isn't it kind of the same though? feels to me more correct way is to expect priors to change and accepting it despite not wanting them to change
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the cultists defy the change, the scientist expect it
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@ds8
well sure, i'm maybe needlessly dwelling on words here — just "want to change" and "expect the change despite reluctance" feel different
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there’s a refusal to the call of change in one of these populations and then there’s the excitement and embrace of change in the other I’ll let you decide which you think is ultimately a better modus operandi
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the first has a slight edge. there's room for both approaches though. generally, i don't agree with the dichotomy. there are cults hungry for change, there are scientists who've refused to change their opinions no matter how many facts™️ they've seen and they turned out to be right. plus there are cultists and larpers hiding behind science too. healthy skepticism on one side and letting go of ego when necessary on the other (which is difficult to judge).
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there’s definitely a thread running through the center that’s healthier than maxing out a position in either side, but most people are motivated to max their positions due in large part to confirmation bias
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many smart people felt cheated when they realized how much fake science there is and imo that's a large factor behind the rift. would've been smarter to admit the fault and stop gaslighting people.
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fake science is no diff than a cult, i think that’s the misunderstanding we have here, the people leading fake science are not scientists, they’re charlatans
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yes, agreed. it's just so difficult to spot the difference (e.g. string theory)
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