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HARD CLOUDS We didn’t have hard state borders in the premodern era. Maps weren’t advanced, passports weren’t issued, travel was infrequent. Dividing the land up into disjoint nation states was very much a new idea. I think we are currently in a similarly fuzzy era of network borders. Maps of the cloud aren’t advanced, digital passports are inchoate, transit between networks is still largely frictionless. But China and crypto are changing that. That is: the Great Firewall and the Bitcoin Blockchain take network borders *seriously.* In totally different ways, Xi and Satoshi treat Internet defense as central to their community’s continued existence. So they built hard clouds. Meanwhile, the legacy nation state was built *before* the cloud. And ideas developed back then don’t necessarily work today in the same way. Eg: if hostile foreigners have free speech on your trusted network, if they can send any bits they want, they may script your drones or take your coins. So cloud borders will harden.

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There is always a catalyst of events that cause these things to turn from infrequent or rare, to frequent or common, what do you see gets us there? The harden clouds that is. Yeah, we will chug along, but is it a rise in new power which you’ve been covering, is it war, is it dark and gloomy, or just we keep chugging along towards it inevitable state of harden clouds?

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Hard Clouds, Soft Land? Do you think that while the borders in the cloud get strengthened, the lines in the physical world will become more flexible, reflecting those of the cloud? For example, communities acquiring, selling or merging land from other startups in a more dynamic way.

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What do you mean by hard borders by bitcoin?Are you referring to interoperability issue between blockchain networks?

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Great point, similar to that article on hardness you posted a while back. Thinking out loud.. What are the attributes of a cloud border? - the ability to measure it. This ensures the ability to separate those on the inside and those on the outside of the border - API callable to be developed on - ability to keep in place, if you can tamper with the border then it's not reliable Blockchain data makes for great borders as it covers all 3 well, however, we have lots of examples of "cloud borders" already. Even though they are not as robust as web3 ones, they have been around longer and that impacts acceptance and distribution. Of things to measure, there are many options, some are more common than others. - time spent (low fids) - attention (watch time) - actions (posts, likes) - ownership (nfts, token holdings -- amount held, time held, type held · common shares / prefs) - access (openrank, paid memberships) - earned accolades (degree, designations, awards)

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A gun is to a geographic border what cryptography is to a digital partition. The more people value their digital security, the more they will arm themselves with hashes and the like, the harder the cloud gets…

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Where does the digital Yuan fit into the hard network perspective? Clearly there is value to them in being able to monitor and control that network, and also it gains value as it adds more users. Do they shut out foreigners, or try to bring them in?

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