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Woah. I’m somewhere in the middle here. Even though not at all super optimizer, I do think Bryan has brought on many more people towards even just starting to think about optimizing their daily lives. But Nassim has a point.
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Ooof that’s a painful rebuff. It’s not the whole Don’t Die movement that’s relevant to Skin in the Game, only @bryanjohnson’s self-experimentation to gather data. It doesn’t get much more “skin in the game” than subjecting yourself to various protocols just to clear the path for others. Taleb is also being his usual curmudgeon self here. The point of Don’t Die (as I understand it) isn’t individual immortality — despite the catchy name. Bryan and others are still aging, just slower. The point is to achieve a longer and healthier life span. I don’t think even radical experimentation in longevity deserves such contempt. If anything, it’s trying to make our bodies closer to being antifragile — being able to withstand and perhaps even benefit from the randomness of our daily lives. That concept should resonate with Taleb.
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And yes, I think everybody understands the Selfish Gene and how we’re just vessels for sex-based evolution. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t minimize the suffering of the conscious vessel if we can. I love Taleb for his intellect and work but I feel he responded unkindly here and was too precious in forming an opinion
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Yeah the irony is amusing. And especially coming from Taleb who's also big into healthspan practices.
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