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@javabu.eth
Once again, R’s are making an issue of a non-issue. https://apnews.com/article/noncitizens-voting-republicans-election-2024-immigration-09b86e6768f755fd875f3c51b0e8ea70
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Im genuinely curious though: What data do they have to prove its rare? Amount of ppl caught? That sounds like a pretty unreliable data if thats the case. Imagine we estimate the amount of online piracy just with the amount of ppl getting caught...
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@javabu.eth
You have to register to vote in each state which is verified by the Secretary of State. Then when you go to vote, your name needs to be on the rolls and usually your signature has to match. Ita not like you can just show up anywhere and vote. Also, the benefit, to the voter, of voting isn’t worth the cost which is a felony.
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To me its an either or question. Either ppl do have to prove their idendity at some point of the process, receive an acknowledgement of that phase, and can present it on election day, and if thats the case then i dont understand what republicans are complaining about? Or there are loopholes that need to be addressed. The "stakes are too high" to justify its not happening doesnt work for me. We have plenty of cases where ppl still commit felony where punishment wayyy outweight the benefit (ex, drink and drive)
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But they do when they register to vote. There are no loopholes to get around having to register. Also, yes people still commit crimes but not voting crimes. We can’t even convince people who can vote to do so.
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Bur if thats the case then, upon registration, why dont they issue some kind of official document, like a card or a piece of paper that would work as an id on election day? This sounds like an easy fix for everyone no?
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Because you might deny someone their right to vote. I guess the question is which is worse: 1. Denying someone their right to vote. 2. Allowing someone to potentially vote illegally. I think 1 is worse. Especially, when the overwhelming evidence shows that 2 doesn’t happen. https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf
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Because it’s not needed. You would be making it harder to vote for no reason. You are looking for an easy fix to a non existent problem.
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Most states already do exactly that, but even that isn't really needed because there's no actual incentive for people to try to vote illegally. Voter ID laws are simply a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and it has a lot of negative side effects.
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