Antonio GarcĂa MartĂnez
@antonio
The weird thing about Telegram is that for all of Pavel's talk of privacy, it's not end-to-end encrypted like WhatsApp and Signal. If The Blob is giving him grief for not going along with warrants, he could just encrypt, only offer traffic data like FB/Apple, and that's that.
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Antonio GarcĂa MartĂnez
@antonio
Also, one of the great ironies of 'crypto' is that it settled on the least cryptographically secure and least decentralized messaging app as its main social/messaging platform. And XMTP and Signal are just sitting right there.
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rish
@rish
It happened to achieve escape velocity before signal got usernames Also I donât understand why telegram isnât encrypted by default for 1:1s
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conca đ©đ»
@0xconca.eth
But truth be told, Telegram is lightning fast, and this speed simply cannot be achieved with real cryptography, especially when we are talking about groups of thousands of people, and the possibility of sharing files up to 4 GBâŠ. also telegram was released 11 years ago! So the way Telegram decided to guarantee privacy is by releasing the source code on github along with the hash proof of that code being exactly what gets uploaded on the App Stores. The problem with Signal is that they claim all those stuff about e2e encryption but in reality nobody can know what they upload on the stores, and thatâs why it has been accused of leaking data to governments.
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rish
@rish
Some fair points, i did say encrypted by default for â1:1sâ :)
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conca đ©đ»
@0xconca.eth
Oh yes for sure đ but Telegram âcore businessâ are giant channels and groups with huge amount of data, and in that regard they are unmatched (discord canât keep up IMHO) For 1vs1 secret chats letâs use XMTP lol
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