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ok farcaster, let me introduce https://thefarcasterexperiment.com/ to you all basically, @dwr.eth claims that there were no breaking changes and only my stuff is broken or that neynar (cc @rish) had something broken well, let's test what @dwr.eth is saying. i launched a farcaster hub from ground up, then connected to it with official node js farcaster lib, then made @healthbot use this hub no third-party software. no me touching the backend, nodejs dependency or the hub let's see for how long this can last, i give it 2-3 months before there is a breaking change that makes me touch the code to make a thing as simple as publishing a cast every hour going again, all native farcaster hub stack, no extra dependencies, just something that "still works since the time it went permissionless" or whatever what are your bets? when will it break? this is a true stress-test of dev trust being broken or upheld

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We are moving to a new version of the protocol in January called snapchain. So it will likely break then. We're not a mature, at-scale protocol. Still actively being built. I understand that you're busy with your own startup that you don't have time to follow along with all the changes. But the vast majority of active developers on the protocol, when surveyed, voted for moving faster and focusing on user growth vs. moving slower and making sure everything is stable.

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coming back to the original topic, "how did farcaster break trust" this is how. this is my original feedback, there is no trust in whatever one builds surviving even 2-3 months without being touched and you're missing the larger set of devs that can spend some time (but not all their full-time work time) benefiting the ecosystem *most* of the things i remember using on farcaster (including 3rd party clients) from 2023 (or even early 2024) are not here today — and the most basic reason is the need to constantly support the software with never-ending breaking changes

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@woj.eth @rish curious what you think about snapchain since you deal with the pain of the existing protocol not working? Boro seems convinced that we don't communicate this well to developers and lose trust.

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i don’t have enough technical insight to can’t speak on the details, but as an app developer i can at least say that the current model didn’t work in the periods of higher traffic and since we need to 100-1000x, im fine with losing backwards compatibility

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