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borodutch
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EF should have supported ZK startups with social capital but they never did all the ZK startups are dying in real time if Ethereum was as cypherpunk as it wants to be, these projects would not have been abandoned
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@rue1776
How are they dying? ZKsync just became the first rollup to process more transactions than ETH in a month
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borodutch
@warpcastadmin.eth
any non-rollup zk products that are not dying? like, i don't know, anything consumer besides tornado cash?
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@rue1776
ZKP2P, Zkemail, and @getclave come to mind right away. But there are much others that aren’t specifically “zk startups” that use the tech For instance, The Graph uses zk tech to provide deterministic queries
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borodutch
@warpcastadmin.eth
with all the respect to zkemail team, the sheer fact that you're mentioning them in the top-3 picks is precisely the issue zkemail is a great poc that is unusable by almost anyone there were many (many) more promising teams that got zero support and since then dissolved any more examples?
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@rue1776
You asked for one’s that aren’t dying. Not ones that have product market fit. By that measure most of crypto is “dying” The most notable zk project to me personally is Aztec. It’s a rollup sure, but if they can actually unlock privacy that’s huge. What exactly are you looking for when you say support?
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borodutch
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it's *very* showing that you haven't come up with the fourth non-dying non-rollup example btw, even by your definition of non-dying
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@rue1776
Not really. You’re negating rollups for no reason when they are a.) the most important part of Ethereums roadmap atm and b.) the most funded of any project type Zk tech is way ahead of schedule based on expectations a few years ago. Maybe all the projects you’re referencing were just a little early
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