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borodutch
@warpcastadmin.eth
EF should have supported ZK startups with social capital but they never did all the ZK startups are dying in real time if Ethereum was as cypherpunk as it wants to be, these projects would not have been abandoned
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notqz🎩
@fishbiscuit
EF has a team called Privacy and Scaling Explorations and there’s tonnes of really good zk work being done there
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borodutch
@warpcastadmin.eth
the fact that we haven't heard of it shows that EF doesn't openly share its social capital with the teams saying this as a zk startup founder literally witnessing this collapse from the inside as more and more teams disappear if there is tonnes of work being done, there seem to be no visible results
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notqz🎩
@fishbiscuit
EF based on my interactions don’t share social capital easily at all (with good reason) Also as a startup, one is running a business- its part and parcel of it. EF’s efforts have all been open source and nonprofit. If EF goes down the path of being such an active industry participant it strays from its core role
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borodutch
@warpcastadmin.eth
but that's the thing it should have the fact that it didn't resulted in so many bright minds just pivoting away from zk this is literally what I'm saying grants and research support are not enough zk products need to solve for traction and ef should've helped with it
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notqz🎩
@fishbiscuit
Btw this is a really fun point to debate and i can draw up many examples why this can lead to problems - but cant really do it publicly If we meet irl happy to share more! One thought experiment is to apply this social signalling to other parts of the industry like wallets, L2s etc and see if it holds
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