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EF should have supported ZK startups with social capital but they never did all the ZK startups are dying in real time if Ethereum was as cypherpunk as it wants to be, these projects would not have been abandoned
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How are they dying? ZKsync just became the first rollup to process more transactions than ETH in a month
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any non-rollup zk products that are not dying? like, i don't know, anything consumer besides tornado cash?
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ZKP2P, Zkemail, and @getclave come to mind right away. But there are much others that aren’t specifically “zk startups” that use the tech For instance, The Graph uses zk tech to provide deterministic queries
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with all the respect to zkemail team, the sheer fact that you're mentioning them in the top-3 picks is precisely the issue zkemail is a great poc that is unusable by almost anyone there were many (many) more promising teams that got zero support and since then dissolved any more examples?
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Curious which were the most promising... Worldcoin is the most used zk (non-rollup) app by far. But clearly didn't need EF support.
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sure, sama is doing good the fuck everyone else am i right or am i right? what you're giving here is survivors, what i'm talking about is casualties that could have been huge with a bit of ef social support but what do we see now? dark forest is dead tc is dead sismo is dead zkemail goes nowhere
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Sama always lands on his feet. You're right Sorry, what is tc? (proves your point btw) Can't believe Sismo is dead... :( DF was clearly a research project. The same with Zupass (we'll see how that plays out).
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I mean that’s kinda the nature of startups. Most die… Also, you saying dark forest reminded me of the cool zk stuff @lattice has done.
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