I love nature. But one thing I am forced to admit about nature is that many of the things that make nature pleasant in practice are actually very artificial:

* Clothing and equipment
* Public toilets at most 1km away in city parks
* Paths, trails, roads
* Dangerous animals removed
* Lots of active maintenance

Nature is great. But pure "nature" is pooping in the forest with nothing to wash your hands, then fighting off a bear and then tripping over a branch and getting a wound, and three days later realizing you have a serious infection.

This also applies to "metaphorical nature", eg. indefinite-optimist views of markets, "spontaneous order", etc.

One counterpoint is that there is a true feeling of joy that comes from overcoming genuine challenge. But this feeling applies to some challenges much more than others!

Day-long hike with 2000m vertical elevation gain: 👍
Pooping with no toilet or place to wash hands: 👎
Getting an infected wound: 😡😰☠

I agree with this. Even hardcore enthusiasts set an exit date.
Nature eats us up or spits us out unless we tame it.

It's a mistake to view pristine nature as some kind of north star of good. It's not, not even for the animals experiencing it. An unavoidable ingredient in making a good world is human intention.

Pure nature is metal, most of us love the watered down version

alright, we can rent a medical team and go on an UnReal World like survival odyssey together.