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July
@july
China has become a science / engineering super power over the past 20 years https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/06/12/china-has-become-a-scientific-superpower
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July
@july
One thing I notice in the West especially is this tendency to severely underestimate how much change China has gone through in the past 30ish years. It’s unprecedented at a scale that I don’t portend to even attempt to understand as well, but I think it’s severely overlooked as many in the West
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Garrett
@garrett
Definitely overlooked. China has essentially been remade overnight within one generation (~30 years) Feels like the education in STEM in China has been outpacing US but we haven't really seen the effects of this yet
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July
@july
If we wait to see the effects of it, it’ll be too late
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Garrett
@garrett
agreed but the US govt apparatus is painfully slow in making big, sweeping changes. The education system in the US is broken. There's still time but we need to get out of our own way
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Trish🫧
@trish
This conversation immediately had me wondering about mental health and happiness. I hope you don’t mind me coming in with this. I feel like I’m always raining on @july’s parade. It’s not my intent I’m excited to see advances in technology and engineering. They are critical to our survival but I’m particularly interested in human impact. What point is any of it if humans can’t thrive too? This was written in 2015 covering 20 years so there’s 10 more to understand and it’s just one study. My point is I hope we can have more discussions with our human spirits taken into account as we talk about these things https://www.brookings.edu/articles/happiness-and-health-in-china-the-paradox-of-progress/
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July
@july
first of all, you're not raining on my parade also i suggest - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/an-elephant-sitting-still-2019 - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/movies/ash-is-purest-white-review.html these are films that i think captures the duality of progress: good & bad
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Luigi Stranieri
@luigistranieri
This is very interesting. Reminds me of the fast development of Japan and consequently large social issues still unsolved. But I don’t want interrupt your chat, thank you for pointing out such interesting arguments.
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