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even if Biden gets out of the dem’s way, I do not see a world where the dems produce any viable character/candidate to sufficiently match the freak of Trump with all that has been gifted him by the universe this year even a Hail Mary of Dwayne Johnson—probably their best chance—has a 99.999999999% failure rate
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Stuart
@olystuart
Yep. Our best bet to build a political movement to rival the neoliberal duopoly is is with the Green Party, and really with an expanded leftist alliance of our various existing groups, on the Green ballot line. To win against fascists you have to have a vision of a better world and convince people's it's possible. Dems can not do that. The election is only a small part, we need a broader united working class organizing together.
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Satoshi Tomatomoto
@tomato.eth
Third parties (green, libertarian, whatever else) will NEVER be viable with the way elections are currently conducted. The two party system is an emergent property of first past the post voting. All the energy that's being spent building third parties should instead be spent lobbying for ranked choice voting. Once that's in place, we might see some other parties become relevant.
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Stuart
@olystuart
Have heard this concern many times over the years, and I like IRV and other interesting methods like a multi-party system, but at the end of the day are the ruling parties going to let those be implemented and challenge their power? No. Only if we're also winning elections. If we have a two party system, then what we need is the Greens to be one of those two major parties. There's no other choice besides giving up on voting. The Dems and the GOP cannot be reformed. I don't think voting is the most impactful thing we can do but I do still believe it can be useful, and the Greens have a chance.
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