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a 2004 interview between hans ulrich obrist and albert hofmann: "We live in a kind of machine world, removed from nature, so it is difficult to deal with these substances. LSD and related plants make us see the difference between the man-made world – the technical world – and the natural world – the living world that arrives every spring, the one that we have right in front of our eyes that we don’t see anymore. LSD makes us see what is eternal, what is holy, what is really the meaning of our life. It opens our mind to the deeper reality, the one that is living, the one you cannot buy, the one that is free if you keep your eyes open." https://www.artbasel.com/stories/hans-ulrich-obrist-albert-hofmann-lsd-art-basel-conversations-20-years
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