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Chainleft
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Hot take: I know the 😎 edgy techno-left 😎 position on copyright is "intellectual property is still property" but it's pretty lame for the techno-left to accept the narrative of capitalists abolishing the only type of property that can be produced by something everyone inherently owns, and no other property.
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I think in the digital age copyright is more trouble than it’s worth. If you substitute paying royalties with direct support, there’s no capitalist middleman and the artist would actually make more money. It’s hard to convince people to pay for something they get for free, sure, but that’s true under capitalism as well. So why not push towards a solidarity and mutualist economy now, rather than wasting time making lawyers rich
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And two more important points I want to add: 1. Until end users start selling the outputs with the word Ghibli, I don’t think copyright will even protect the use. Maybe OpenAI will have to pay to license the works it fed into the model. I support that because fuck big tech. Bleed them dry. But not because it’s meaningful in preventing this kind of use. 2. Fuck OpenAI. With that said, would you feel any different if it were open source models. Would you feel differently if some executive at Disney or wherever agrees to license Miyazaki’s work to Midjourney. What if it’s trained off of Ghibli fan art submitted consensually? Where exactly is the line? That’s the problem with IP. It is mess of a concept that we constantly have to adjust to virtue signal.
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I think the means and outcome are being confused. You can support directly with royalties too, no need for middleman. Middleman only exists where necessary, it's the case even for patronage.
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