e/acc

after the Lex x Beff pod, i am more skeptical of than persuaded by e/acc:

-URL vibes are 1000% hyper masculine, but the IRL vibes are… not, to put it bluntly

-the sense it was started as satire, unexpectedly took off w/o a strong foundation, and now they’ve doubled down due to sunk cost fallacy

any counters? SOS

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Don't read the a16 manifesto, or read it and get a bit mad. It starts more or less ok, and then it is just a list of extreme capitalism. They want to write the rules, they want to control the narrative. There's no optimism in there except for them.

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how do you think e/acc and the technoptimist movements intersect, overlap, diverge, etc.?

The whole thing is that the a16 manifesto is about techno-optimism. e/acc and them overlap in the idea of not putting any constraints into the technology, so it can evolve, as they assume: technology will always bring good for humans.

Finally abundance: the techno optimism manifesto turns around about markets and benefits. As in my first cast: that only works for them. I don't see how they approach the problem in places where humans are having rough times and how technology will not increase the difference between people.

And for me, and I hope for techno-optimisms as well, that's something really important: a good technology should be something that benefits all the humans, not just a few. Otherwise we are creating bigger differences and leaving behind too many people.

An example: ordering a coffee nowadays could be impossible for elderly people. In some restaurants and coffee-shops you can only order if you have a phone, install an app, do the order online in the table, and pay with your virtual credit card. Is it handy? Yes, is it including everyone? Hard no.

The divergence could come from the sections energy and abundance. The a16 manifesto "assumes" and that's a lot to assume, that we will solve our energy problems as humans. Techno optimism otherwise hope to have a solution, but the manifesto says this will be solved. One is certain, the other is not.