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mentioned this somewhere else but i think the objective of the algofeed matters a lot i.e. whose interests is it acting in?

the most basic form of choice that i am referring to is binary: algo vs non-algo

continuing this thread: an algofeed should be listening to you and working in your interests literally.

we have cold started /uno with a reverse chron feed and our alpha users repeatedly tell us they don't like it/are surprised to see content they don't like (but from accounts they follow! 😆)

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come on the discourse is a lot more nuanced than that

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people complained all the time that they wanted "pure shuffle" then we test it, people complain about getting the same song 4x in a row and become incredibly apoplectic. stated versus revealed, etc.

i think the problem here is people saying they want pure shuffle thinking it will solve the problem of hearing the same song 4x in a row where in reality they just want that problem to go away

different to the feed algo topic imo

Gotcha, I agree in theory

I think that even the most advanced algorithmic feeds find it hard to closely match the user’s desires all the time so some basic optionality could be helpful - specifically being able to express a desired bias for recency e.g. for commentary on current events

Also as a sidenote, I know original discussion was about building a successful consumer apps, but when you put on your protocol hat and look at it from the perspective of “how can we improve our relationship with technology” (which is what I was subconsciously doing) I think the decoupling of algorithms from apps is an extremely important step

my point was that it's not that users want A, they just want better B.

stated is that users desire a pure option, but revealed is that they want better results regardless of delivery. so adding more "options" is not necessary when the outcome is the same regardless of how you get there.